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	<title>Comments on: Dredging Wickham Creek</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Gleason</title>
		<link>http://www.southoldvoice.com/2008/02/dredging-wickham-creek/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gleason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to invite Mr. Allison to visit our shoreline with me so we can discuss and view the realities on the ground as some of his assumptions are not accurate. I routinely kayak both our shores and try to look at the situation in an even-handed way. Sand is a precious resource and shore remediation needs to have a flexible, needs-based sharing strategy so that both sides of the creek are adequately addressed. The real solution to littoral cell destruction and shoreline erosion (as is the case for the shoreline to the west of the creek) is a systemic solution which includes: semi-permeable rock structures to entrain sand and dampen wave energy vs. non-permeable vertical structures. This is coupled with sand remediation. These are the approaches put in places on the Chesapeake, Puget Sound, Pamlico Sound and others with significant success. Unfortunately NYS is hopelessly behind and inactive in protecting it&#039;s shore with pro-active systemic solutions. They leave it to the home owners and shoreline associations to play tug-of-war. It&#039;s all about sharing the resources we have (sand) and instrumenting proven techniques (remediation, wave energy absorption, semi-permeable structures) while replacing non-permeable structures that starve shorelines and destroy littoral cells. All the shore lines in Cutchogue Harbor are inter-dependent and must be addressed as a whole. (I&#039;m in the phone book and I welcome the potential of forming a Cutchogue Harbor Stakeholders group to seeks ways to address our shared systemic erosion problems).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to invite Mr. Allison to visit our shoreline with me so we can discuss and view the realities on the ground as some of his assumptions are not accurate. I routinely kayak both our shores and try to look at the situation in an even-handed way. Sand is a precious resource and shore remediation needs to have a flexible, needs-based sharing strategy so that both sides of the creek are adequately addressed. The real solution to littoral cell destruction and shoreline erosion (as is the case for the shoreline to the west of the creek) is a systemic solution which includes: semi-permeable rock structures to entrain sand and dampen wave energy vs. non-permeable vertical structures. This is coupled with sand remediation. These are the approaches put in places on the Chesapeake, Puget Sound, Pamlico Sound and others with significant success. Unfortunately NYS is hopelessly behind and inactive in protecting it&#8217;s shore with pro-active systemic solutions. They leave it to the home owners and shoreline associations to play tug-of-war. It&#8217;s all about sharing the resources we have (sand) and instrumenting proven techniques (remediation, wave energy absorption, semi-permeable structures) while replacing non-permeable structures that starve shorelines and destroy littoral cells. All the shore lines in Cutchogue Harbor are inter-dependent and must be addressed as a whole. (I&#8217;m in the phone book and I welcome the potential of forming a Cutchogue Harbor Stakeholders group to seeks ways to address our shared systemic erosion problems).</p>
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		<title>By: dave bergen</title>
		<link>http://www.southoldvoice.com/2008/02/dredging-wickham-creek/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>dave bergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke with David today (2/5).  We had a good conversation.  I explained to him that I was speaking to the Town Board in my role as Trustee, not representing Southold VOICE.  I do not beleive that SV was even mentioned at the meeting.  Anyway, I explained that the permits for Wickham Creek state that the material must go to the east, but that the TB Dredging Advisory Committee and the Trustees were looking for a one time amendment to place the material in front of the dunes  to the West, between the bay and Wickham Creek.  These dunes experienced severe erosion last April.  David will ask the Fleets Neck Property Owners to oppose this amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke with David today (2/5).  We had a good conversation.  I explained to him that I was speaking to the Town Board in my role as Trustee, not representing Southold VOICE.  I do not beleive that SV was even mentioned at the meeting.  Anyway, I explained that the permits for Wickham Creek state that the material must go to the east, but that the TB Dredging Advisory Committee and the Trustees were looking for a one time amendment to place the material in front of the dunes  to the West, between the bay and Wickham Creek.  These dunes experienced severe erosion last April.  David will ask the Fleets Neck Property Owners to oppose this amendment.</p>
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